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Creating one WF class.
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Keep the classes the same10 Votes - [71.43%]
Change to one class at 385lbs4 Votes - [28.57%]

Sean Kisselbach
Posted 2014-02-16 6:23 PM (#17240)
Subject: Creating one WF class.




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I'm curious to see if anyone else has any interest in changing the WF class structure for next season. Instead of having a 365lb class and a masters class, there would be one class at 385lbs. Thoughts? Please vote
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Veerachart Murphy
Posted 2014-02-16 7:18 PM (#17241 - in reply to #17240)
Subject: RE: Creating one WF class.



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I still wouldnt make weight
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Bernie Lacotta
Posted 2014-02-17 9:17 PM (#17244 - in reply to #17240)
Subject: Re: Creating one WF class.


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We started the class with one 385 # class. strictly a local option. Went to the 365# class. Seeing the most growth with two classes.
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Dan Conyers
Posted 2014-02-25 8:23 PM (#17256 - in reply to #17240)
Subject: RE: Creating one WF class.



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One ez solution to the situation is to grid the masters (395) behind the seniors (365), then start green flag, with masters slightly behind (50 feet) the seniors.
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Bernie Lacotta
Posted 2014-02-28 6:41 AM (#17262 - in reply to #17240)
Subject: Re: Creating one WF class.


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What situation?
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Eric Vanderford
Posted 2014-02-28 11:33 AM (#17263 - in reply to #17240)
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If running together is a problem then you need to split the class NEXT SEASON at this point I dont believe we have enough karts to do that.
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Rich Bowen
Posted 2014-02-28 3:35 PM (#17264 - in reply to #17240)
Subject: Re: Creating one WF class.


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The issue in this thread is a weight/age issue. There is at least one person that is too heavy for the 365 class and too young for the Masters class. We just need to continue to grow the classes and then we can have a Med., Heavy and Master class. But I don't see enough that can't run Med and don't fit in the Masters to see this happening anytime soon.
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Sean Kisselbach
Posted 2014-03-02 3:41 PM (#17266 - in reply to #17264)
Subject: Re: Creating one WF class.




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Rich is correct. I am willing to admit i am one of the drivers that is stuck. I have fun running in the lighter class but i cannot make 365. The problem i run into is being just faster then the top guys in master but just slower then the 365 drivers. This situation caused an incident on the track last race between a masters driver and i. I feel if we were all one class, these situations could be avoided. Im happy to throw on 7ish lbs of lead and run masters, but i do not meet the age rules.

Edited by Sean Kisselbach 2014-03-02 3:46 PM
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Bryan Casebolt
Posted 2014-03-02 4:01 PM (#17267 - in reply to #17240)
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It is my understanding that for club races we are running Light (365 over 16) and Heavy (395 and over 16). Bernie isn't that correct?
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Sean Kisselbach
Posted 2014-03-02 4:14 PM (#17268 - in reply to #17267)
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I am under the impression it is light (365) and masters, im not positive on the lbs but i think its 400 and 30+ years of age

Edited by Sean Kisselbach 2014-03-02 4:15 PM
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Bernie Lacotta
Posted 2014-03-02 4:29 PM (#17269 - in reply to #17240)
Subject: Re: Creating one WF class.


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Our present classes are IKF classes: WF Medium, 16 and over at 365#, and WF Masters, over 40 at 400# but also allowing drivers over 30 in the class if they weigh over 200# after the race.( driver weight) I have a few comments. Sean weighs less then I did when I raced at 365#, weight was not my problem as much as talent. If he adds the weight to make 390 I would bet he would be in the same relative position to the front runners. This class, a little more than others, puts a premium on smooth, experienced gained driving talent.
That being said, the idea of the Masters class came about because some "older" racers did not want to contend with some of the "spirited" driving of some younger drivers. Since we race together anyway I don't see where we have accomplished anything in that respect. I'm open to discussions to a IKF Heavy class @ 16 yrs. and 400# in lieu of the Masters class for next season.
I'm also sure that with a little effort Sean can get the weight down on the kart, and I'm not even talking personal fitness.
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Sean Kisselbach
Posted 2014-03-02 4:51 PM (#17270 - in reply to #17240)
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I assure you, my kart is as light as i can get it. This seems to be on going. Im just happy to race, i can see this not changing any time soon. I will run with what i have and it is what it is
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Bernie Lacotta
Posted 2014-03-02 8:08 PM (#17271 - in reply to #17270)
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Sean Kisselbach - 2014-03-02 4:51 PM

I assure you, my kart is as light as i can get it. This seems to be on going. Im just happy to race, i can see this not changing any time soon. I will run with what i have and it is what it is


Wanna bet?
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Bryan Casebolt
Posted 2014-03-02 10:00 PM (#17272 - in reply to #17267)
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Bryan Casebolt - 2014-03-02 4:01 PM

It is my understanding that for club races we are running Light (365 over 16) and Heavy (395 and over 16). Bernie isn't that correct?


Sorry, I forgot about the change that was made for the winter season.

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Sean Kisselbach
Posted 2014-03-03 3:44 PM (#17275 - in reply to #17271)
Subject: Re: Creating one WF class.




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Come to my pit on sunday and feel free to show me.
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Bernie Lacotta
Posted 2014-03-04 6:01 AM (#17276 - in reply to #17240)
Subject: Re: Creating one WF class.


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I will! There is a WF kart, hopefully racing Sunday, that weighs at least 40# less then mine. Mine weighs the standard 180-185#.
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